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Friday, August 10, 2012

[WoT] Digging Through Archives: U-20-II - Compactness as it is

Along with U-20 project an alternative tank destroyed prototype based on T-34 chassis was in development. It was named U-20-II.

Some details. Just like U-20, U-20-II used T-34 chassis, had open-top turret for the crew of 3.
Front turret was 75mm, side turret - 40mm, a substantial increase comparing to basic U-20.

Moreover, the new prototype was lower (2475mm, a bit higher than T-34) and the gun stuck out in front of the full for only 200mm, however, the ammo load dropped from 76 to 60 rounds, which was still more than enough.

Another question is what was sacrificed to achieve such compactness.

General blueprint

 Longitudinal plan

Central Archive of the Russian Ministry of Defence, fund 81, inventory 12038, case N90

52-K AA gun which was mounted without any sort of modification left next to nothing for the loader. Unsurprisingly, the project was eventually dumped in April 1942. That was the end of T-34 based TDs with 85mm.


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  2. Interesting, looks like it could be a nice counter to the M10 & M36 tank destroyers if this tank has a full turret rotation.

    85mm with a T-34 hull isn't to be laughed at if its tier V/VI

  3. yeah, a TD with that body will be something interesting to see in game


    Seriously even the A7V could be a cool tier 1 premium gift


    What if Mines, or Murovanka, or Dragon Ridge was only 1 square out of the 10 x 10 grid! lol

  5. Dude anything can counter the M10 and M36 their armor is paper and if this gets put in its also going to have paper armor like the US tier 5-6 TDs

  6. Thank you Overlord for sharing the information and images with us.
    Looks to be a very nice TD. I'll buy it for sure when it's released.

  7. I have close to 300 games on my SU-85, my favorite tank in WoT, and this looks interesting to be honest.

    It's not so much a matter of damaging the M10/M36, as it is to counter the tactics they employ. They offer high accuracy, quick fire-rates and the ability to use locations other TD's can't utilized due to the limitations of a having a fix-gun and low drive speed. Regular TD's are ambush specialists but the US models are more guerrilla-tactic TD's.

    The main plus-point to the SU-85 is the mobility it offers combined with the accuracy/fire-rate of the new gun.

    I suspect that in-game version of the U-20-II would have a slower turret rotation speed as well as a lower fire-rate due to limitations the fire-crew faced. Still it will give us TD-fanboys an interesting tank in the Russian line.

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