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Friday, October 26, 2012

[WoT] Digging Through Archives: On 8.8 cm PaK 43

Some "archive stuff". The image below represents penetration tests of 8.8 cm PaK (Germany), 122mm D-25T (USSR), and 152mm howitzer ML-20 (USSR) done against IS-3 prototype by Soviets.
Central Archive of the Russian Ministry of Defence, fund 38, inventory 11355, case N2943, page 16

IS-3 wasn't impressed at all.

Text above the image:
Front plate of IS-3 is practically immune to contemporary tank guns. The durability of welded plates ensures the required level of protection.
After 7 hits of 88-152mm rounds, the front plate is still good to go. 

Text under the image:
Mark 16: hit by 88mm round from 330m.
Marks 17 and 18: hits by 122mm and 152mm rounds respectively from 690m.


  1. IS-3 may nt be impressed bt IS-3 is impressive for sure :)

    bt why has it not got the beak in front?

    a lil off topic:-

    can u confirm aotoloaders for USA
    (t57 & t58)?

    1. 1. Its a prototype with "flat" front.

      2. Not yet.

    2. Thats obvious that there will be US tanks with autoloaders. Introducing tanks with oscillating turrets without autoloaders would be very... eccentric :) Oscilating turrets where designed specially to enable revolver loaders. It was the only reason to make such strange turrets. And we know that there will be at least 2 US tanks with oscillating turrets in the game - T69 and T57, cause their screenshots have already leaked.

      But it is very possible that there will be no T58. 155 mm autoloader in fully rotating turret is a little too much, even for X tier heavy tank. So far T57 was unofficially presented as X tier heavy.

    3. After seeing how bad french autoloaders were nerfed to the point in-drum shell "reload" is as long as a non-autoloader gun's reload (amx 13/75-90) and drum reload is too long compared to the "benefit", I do not see why anyone would want to play american tanks with autoloader.

    4. So the autoloaders are not restricted to French line anymore? Good! Still w8ting for an autoloader for Skoda T-25.

  2. Looks like number 16 did better then the others. :)

    I gues that this prototype was too nose heavy because of the armor thickness and got scraped?

    What thickness it had? 140-160mm?

  3. yeah .. prototype IS-3 was so awesome that it never made into production

    and because of it's awesomeness, they decided to pus some extra plates on that front armor .. you know, just because

  4. Ovi,
    can you please go and slap the EU community team? We still don't have a Q%A thread after you left!

    1. WAItm
      They piss on the community and don't even tell us it'd be rain.

    2. Sorry to hear that, guys. Ask here, if you have got Qs. I'm always ready to reply, if I can.

  5. What noobs!:D Aim for LFP for pen:P

    1. Pretty nice how PaK still harmed the plate more than the russian guns. Even without the fitting ammo. IS there a better photo to actually see if the 122mm scratched something?:D

  6. Thats the gun the Tiger H and Tiger P use in game right?
    203 penetration goes through the IS-3 front easily if I remember correctly...
    Will that change anything?

    1. After last changes not so easily, even on angled IS3 (when armor is pendincular to shot line) you got nice chances to get bounced.

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