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First! Thanks.Different turret plans? Guns?
From the sources that big turret has only 80mm side armor...
Q: Different turret plans? Guns? A: 2 guns and 2 turrets.
Q: From the sources that big turret has only 80mm side armor...A: Nope, actually much thicker.
Thanks Overlord,now go waking up the hamsters... the servers crashed :)
Overlord said... Q: From the sources that big turret has only 80mm side armor... A: Nope, actually much thicker. June 16, 2011 3:37 PM O shure, what 82 like panther ??And why not the adler turret, put this dumb krup turet on is 7 and call it balance, you...you...grrrrrr
any details about 2nd gun ? 12,8 L60 ?
My bad:there were 2 Krupp designs, one for Porsche-Maus/Tiger-Maus, similar to the real Maus turret... plus the other Krupp design that is shown here, one version heavier than the other, my references were on the lighter one. But I don't know anything about the heavier version, that seems to be the one Overlord refers to.
Ovi already stated this on guns:1. 12.8 L/55.2. 15.0 L/38.Guess, this has been covered earlier.
Nice!Somme information about the another gun?
without the turret...that tank looks awesome! i realy realy hope that turret is not final... adler and maus turret fits allot better...
nicely shaped hull model and stuff but this krupp turret wont fit the hull design - looks crappy and doesn't match the hull this way ;)
"Adler" turret was never designed by germans in the '40s, this "famous" "adler" turret all refer to is the creation of a modeler for a sci-fi german tank line.
What a beauty! Definitely I want collect all german super heavies (Lowe, Maus and E100)
So, it's going to be the first T10 heavy with additional unlockable equipment?
will other tier 10s get unlockable equipment upgrades as well?
WHY THIS SHIT TURRET???
Wich datas has this turret?
UGLY TURRET!!! WE WANT THE ADLER TURRET!!!!
bleh Maus V2, even uglier looks like made by some retarded engineer .... nothing special here probably build from paper, hmm about 150mm gun I guess 0.6 accuracy so you won't be able to hit precious russian tanks??
I like this turret ... and the 15cm gun.Hopefully it "one hits" IS. ;)
it shold get parts out of the 90´s like the engine of the t54. maybe the leopart 2 turret ;)
Overlord do you mean top turret as in its the stock one or the one that requires research? Also will the two different turrets that you can research look the same or different?
I love the look of the E-series hull but the turret is horrible. Given the fact there are many experimental/prototype tanks in the game some with poetic license. Couldn't you have many take a little poetic license and make the turret look like it goes with the hull.
Does the turret and hull have different colour gradations? Does not look consistent!
Sad to see the choice of turrets. I assume the other turret is the Maus one from early models we've seen.The Henschel turret is easily the best looking and naturally fitting turret in my opinion.
Q: Overlord do you mean top turret as in its the stock one or the one that requires research? Also will the two different turrets that you can research look the same or different? A: There will be 1 researchable turret, different designs ofc.
Can`t really see the point of giving the E-100 the Krupp turret OR the Maus turret. Thought that the E-series would offer a different play style rather than being a slightly faster Maus. And the whole point of the E series of tanks was to streamline production and cut costs. The most likely turret would be an upgraded E-75 turret, not the rather obsolete and costly Maus turret.
I'm assuming it will not get the 173mm Kwk44http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerkampfwagen_E-100 (my source for info) anyway I'm already grinding my way up the tree to get this beast in July
@I'm assuming it will not get the 173mm Kwk44http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerkampfwagen_E-100 (my source for info)Nope, Overlord mentioned it already http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/26236-eu-questions-answers/page__view__findpost__p__634510
I Remember seeing loads of forum polls that wanted the Henschel and Alder turrets, guess the devs havnt noticed what the community would prefer.
What will the damage of that 150mm be like You reckon Overlord - around 750 points like the russians/americans have on their 152/155mm guns?
I thought the same as "Anon. June 16, 2011 5:44 PM", Overlord please tell me this will be the upgraded turret:http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/german/e100_mrinaldi2.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_56C-ixCTGN4/TQ2hq5otlAI/AAAAAAAADVw/Ih_wg4RL-Zs/s1600/E100Maus.jpghttp://www.modellversium.de/galerie/img/1/3/3/8133/3109457/e-100-trumpeter.jpgThanks for your time.
That turret has a bar across it much like the T29 does. Will this "bar" be a weak spot? The T29 is very vulnerable with the upgraded turret as the "bar" or "ears" on it are easy to penetrate, will the same thing happen to this tank?
Im in love *_*More E-100 to the people!Add both of these for later.. like 0.7.5.0 version...Landkreuzer P.1000 RatteLandkreuzer P.1500 Monster<3
Конечно лучше, чем первый скриншот с е-100, который мы видели, но всё равно хотелось бы башню как на е-75, эх...(=
Overlord, so that you mean T10 Heavies will have other things to research?
speak common language commie
"speak common language commie"1. Copy text2. Paste it into google translator3. ???4. PROFIT!Certainly better than the first screenshot of the e-100, which we have seen, but still would like the tower as an e-75
Adler turret is a big need... Must have...
When will you morons finaly understand...this so called "Adler" or "Henschel" turret never exists, not even plans of that thing. It,s a f***ing fantasy from a german modeler, not more.The only two turrets planned for the E100 were the normal Maus Turret and the modified Maus II turret (the one you see on overlords pics).
WHY!!! THE SHITTY KRUMPP TURRENT! WHY NOT THE ALDLER! YOU DEVS FAIL!
God I hate the way that turret looks horrible. It really does look out of place on such a sleek and modern looking hull. The devs really modeled that hull and thought "hmmm I guess all it needs now is an upside-down mcnuggets box for a turret, GENIUS"?Man you think you would be able to take at least a little creative license to a tank that barely had a hull and only had turrets in blueprint
oh, and to Edelhonk, no turrent was every created for the E100 so by your logic, they are all sci-fy you derp, the germans only finished the hull.
Of course, there's a difference between "planned" and "purely fantasy". The E-100 was at least PLANNED to have the Krupp and Maus turrets....say, how do people throw in the extra "n" in turret, anyway? Not to be a spelling Nazi or anything, but I see this error everywhere.
Looks good to me, I like the fact that you can have different setups with this tank. I'm assuming a slower heavier one but hard hitting less accurate and a little faster one less armor and smaller gun but better accuracy. Thx for your work guys. Also thx for last patch, my tiger doesn't burn as much anymore.
Lot of tanks in this game was only on blueprint so why cannot be Adler turret in game too?
Stop calling for Adler turret. Its pure fiction and this game is based on historical parts and plans not fictional models.
Because adler was never a blueprint from 1940, it is the creation of a modeler,this is a true blueprint:http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1160/e100zeichnungqp4.jpg
I know this may sound foolish, but what is the point of having excellent frontal hull armor, if the turret facing is poor in comparison? From what I understand the Kruppturm would have but 200mm of frontal turret armor - 200mm was obsolete as of T8.Most of the modules which effect a tanks performance are also stored in the turret - Commander, Gunner, Loader(s), Gun, Optics.This all together creates a very poor T10 with a rather crippling weakness, from appearances. If it's possible Overlord, if the Kruppturm is found wanting, that it might be improved or replaced? A buff from 200mm to 280mm is enough to keep T9 guns away, and to a less extent T10 guns.
Q: When can we expect some in game info on this tank (armor, speed, accuracy of 15cm gun/damage/ penetration...)? By the way, it looks awesome, tnx Overlord.
Q: You say top turret and top gun. Do you mean that this one will be the better turret and gun? I originally thought that the E-100 was supposed to have a choice of turrets and guns, and that one wouldn't necessarily be better than the other. i.e. Krupp turret with 15cm gun versus Maus turret with 12.8cm gun would give the option of big gun low armor (krupp turret) versus big armor weak gun (maus turret).
I only want to know how fast will be 15cm gun???3.00 shots/min??? German 128mm is slow, that tank with slow gun and weak, big turret will we to weak vs is7.
Q: Will both guns fit both turrets? If not shouldn't the 128mm be on the Krupp turret and the 150mm on the Maus turrret?Also, Krupp turret is fine but Maus turret makes this tank look like a clon (would be better to have Henschel Turret if possible), is Maus turret definitive?
Developers, why do not you listen? It is clearly in bluprints that there are more than two turrets on the E-100. Have you forgotten that we are the ones who pay to play? You have much to learn from the CCP, the developers of EVE Online that actually listens to the wishes of the gaming community.Is it a goal to make all the drivers of German tanks angry?
is there any Engine Upgrade for the E-100? If yes, how many and how much PS ?
For all you morons saying the Henschel turret is a fantasy turret, a Henschel turret is just an up-armored KT turret. How freaking fantastical is that? What, are you gonna tell me a turret that was never built is more historically accurate than an enlarged version of a turret that was in full production? God some of you are just plain morons.
I like the turret. It's like a combination of the Maus Turret and the Adler turret. Speaking of the Maus, will it eventually be capable of carrying the 150, considering the 150 was meant to be used with the Maus?
WOW a lot of you people take this so seriously, it's just a game. The developers have made a respectable attempt at maintaining historic accuracy but again, there is a degree of poetic lisence with any translation from one medium to the next. I think the developers have done a marvelous job in creating this game and trying to keep it fresh with new tanks and maps for a game you can play for free. So, lighten up Susan, enjoy the GAME, otherwise it's just work you don't get paid for...
Well, I have to agree with the sentiment that this turret doesn't look good as some of those proposed by the community. On the other hand, I also don't like the idea of introducing fictional turrets. Yeah, it's just a turret but what when people start wanting the E-79 or other completely fictional tanks? Anyhow, I'll probably be working my way towards this tank since I still think it looks far better than that cinder block on treads known as the Maus.P.S. Will the requests for the Ratte/Monster never end?! Grrrr...MrTankFan
Lostwingman said it all..
The turret shown above is stock turret ?
Turret shown above is the top turret. Overlord's stated previously that the Mausturm would never have been able to mount the 150mm:http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/25832-a-question-about-the-e-100-tank/page__view__findpost__p__368144
E-100 is lookin' good!Will we also be seeing a similar preview for the upcoming M103?
"For all you morons saying the Henschel turret is a fantasy turret, a Henschel turret is just an up-armored KT turret."Nope. Here's a post showing all four designs - historical or not - for the E-100.http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/30798-e100/page__view__findpost__p__439139Please be less provoking, especially when your information is misleading.
Look mommy I can post pictures too! Also for your images to have proven any point it would have to actually compare the henschel turret to the KT turret. Let me show you how to do that.http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/1-Vehicles/Axis/1-Germany/03-sPanzers/Pz.Kpfw6-Tiger2/PzBfWg6B-Tiger2%28SdKfz268%29.htmhttp://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/1-Vehicles/Axis/1-Germany/03-sPanzers/E-100/E-100%282%29.htmObserve how the Henschel turret from above appears as an enlarged KT turret without the tapered back third and the middle section extended. How then is the Henschel turret anymore fantastical than that terrible looking Krupp mockup. I swear what that thing really reminds me of is a wooden mockup...
Another bit of interesting information is that it appears that Henschel was going to be the primary manufacturer of the E-100 if it ever saw the light of day. http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/tanks-heavy/e-series.aspNot making any crazy assumptions on that though, just food for thought.
@lostwingman "a Henschel turret is just an up-armored KT turret"Good point, devs should consider Henschel uparmored turret from E75 instead Maus turm, then Henschel turm will carry 12,8 cm and Krupp turm willy carry 15 cm. They did something similar once, they uparmored porsche turm for vk4502 (check stats for standard turm and elite turm on vk4502 and for porsche turm on Tiger II)"Observe how the Henschel turret from above appears as an enlarged KT turret without the tapered back third and the middle section extended. How then is the Henschel turret anymore fantastical than that terrible looking Krupp mockup. "No. Turret must the be same like on E75 but with better armor. And I prefer something new (Krupp mockup) than already know Maus turm. Yesterday I quickly read some works about E100 (Jentz, Doyle and Trojca) and devs got right but I think they could make another execption (as in VK4502) and they could implement uparmored K75 turret.(like eliteturm on vk4502
"Up-armored" vs "enlarged". I'm sure you know the difference, and it's not a small one, either. But hey, it's rather pointless arguing any farther. Historical options will always be the better to pick over something made post-war for needs non-combat related.
Q: Will the top turret (Krupp) have more hitpoints than the stock (Maus) turret? Or will it just be an alternative (i.e. a choice between the two depending on playstyle)? From what I have seen the Maus turret has better armor and should imo have more health.
""Up-armored" vs "enlarged". I'm sure you know the difference, and it's not a small one, either. But hey, it's rather pointless arguing any farther. Historical options will always be the better to pick over something made post-war for needs non-combat related."Yes sure but for balance reasons some historical values are dumbed, some tanks are slightly largered, some slightly lowered. I made some copypaste with E75 turret on E100 drawning and turret needs only little enlargement (10% I think).http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/199/e100withe75turret2.jpg/http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/e100withe75turret.jpg/We will play what devs will make (whinning all the time :)), I'm only pointing that pair: Kruppturm - E75turm looks diferentated from option Kruppturm - Maus turm.
please dvlopers put henschel turret.
Let's start a petition!http://www.thepetitionsite.com/
A PETITION IS A GOOD IDEA! IF WE ALL SIGN IT TOGETHER THEY WILL SURELY REALIZE THAT OUR NUMBERS ARE GREAT ENOUGHT TO LISTEN OUR OPINION!
No adler/henschel turret please, im sick of you guys always complaining. I'm okay with german tanks being not the best tanks in game ... So you have to think and make good tactics and train yourself to compete with the russian tanks.Q: If the e100 will be upgradeable, will the maus and other t10's remain unupgradeable?
Imo it looks great but i would like to see a muzzle break on that 15cm KwK and it will be perfect :)
as long as the derv don't screw up the armor value , i'm happy with this turret and its 15cm
LOL at "anonymouses" doing petitions!Wait, I can sign my cat too!
So Overlord, we've seen the E-series now but what about some of the other tanks to be added in 0.6.6? Will we get to see Tiger (P), VK 4502 Ausf. A, or Object 252 pics soon? Or maybe some pics of tanks from the upcoming 0.6.5 patch, like M-22 and T-127 light tanks?MrTankFan
"Anonymous said... Stop calling for Adler turret. Its pure fiction and this game is based on historical parts and plans not fictional models. June 16, 2011 9:50 PM "rofl man on one side you wanna something realistic something what was based on historical facts and on other side you wanna something what you called "BALANCE" what is not realistic like ROF,speed of german tank (under speed) etcE-100 will be the MOST USELESS T10 Maybe devs should remove all german tanks from this game coz what they are doing with them should called racismSorry for ma bad english
Turret is UGLY. really ugly...plz give someting better.. It is uglier than Frankeishtein...
its more ugly than my grandma :X
I love the looks of the tank, now the German tank tree players have a brawler that is faster than the maus. So a tank you actually can use in pub games. Thx Dev's and since last patch I feel the German tanks are more competitive. Still German tanks are behind Russian and American heavies in getting XP, I hope that changes with the E Series. Check the hall of fame, average XP per battle barely German heavies in the top 20.
I'm German and play the German tank tree for 2 reasons best looking tanks and accuracy. Seeing it in a greater context I appreciate the work you Dev's do. Russia suffered the most of WW II and yet you are able to beautifully render German tanks. I see the advantage of the Russian tanks more like a personal thing than a nationality one. You are Belorussians and you like Russian tanks more. I was wondering if this game was produced in Germany or America would be similar for their trees. Since the last patch a lot bugs are fixed. Thx
The funny thing is the turret they've put on the E-75 is a completely fictional turret. The turret was slapped together by a resin model kit company so they had something to stick on the E-75 hull they had. In actuality the E-75 was to use the "narrow" turret that German drivers have to independently research 20 different times on their medium tanks. So there's no reason for the developers to not use the fictional Adler turret. They're just trying to screw you over.
some retarded posters here needs to stfu>fo.
Overlord could you pls tell us why you ppl (devs) dont wanna add Adler Turret? only the reason why not, if you think it will be so much OP with this turret or any few words about thatAs long as i read about this turret ppl can sacrifice a lot to have Adler, gun, some armor value on hull or on turret itself or even both or some another stats, they are ready for some compromise so why you ppl at least dont try think about thatthx
wont gona farm for that ******
just give us maus turret 150 mm gun beter top speed and finish this :)
The damage from the German 150 will be equal to those of other nations?
Because Belarus is still communism country.)
Not bad for me, I like the turret in game.
I want only 128 mm (better gun from JagdTiger, and top speed 42 km/h (not to much but historical).
So many questions and not one of you asking the correct one.Ehy Overlord, WHEN WILL THE 6.6 PATCH BE ?
Q: Ehy Overlord, WHEN WILL THE 6.6 PATCH BE ? A: End of July - August.
Overlord please read this topics and respond:http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/42631-dialogue-with-the-developers-e100/http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/37335-e100-we-want-another-turret/page__st__60And please tell me why Developers dont want to hear opinions from us - players ??
Hi OverlordPLS REASON WHY NOT ADLER TURRET?
adler turret is fantasy, krupp turret is reality.
Mr Overlord, can you give me the reason why the derv choose the Krupt and maus's turret ? Why we can't have the Maus's turret replace by adler? In history , the E-100 only have the hull builded so it could be installed the adler or the mausturm , both can mount the 12.8
150mm wow finally german heavy is getting big gun
adler turret is fantasy, krupp turret is reality.Nice to see someone is still sane out there.
Dear Overlord,I heard some news from RU forum that the transferment of T34 to M103 will be delay 1~2 patch from 6.6 because of the big change of German tanks, is it true ?
"Anonymous said... adler turret is fantasy, krupp turret is reality. June 19, 2011 2:42 AM "And second turret on PZ-4 was reality? Others tanks like Object 261, VK 1602 Leopard, GWP, GWE never exist and for some of them the development was even abandon DO YOU WANNA REALITY? TRY SOME TANK SIMULATOR COZ THIS IS NOT SIMULATOR. SO YOU WANNA REALITY IN THIS GAME? THAN COUNT WITH BE KILLED BY 2000+ METERES FROM TIGER OR PANTHER, COUNT WITH NON MISSED GERMAN CANON ON DISTANCE 2000+ METERES, COUNT WITH SPEED LIKE IT WAS IF YOU WANNA REALITY.IF YOU WANNA SOME REALITY THAN DO EVERYTHING LIKE IT WAS AND DONT DO REALITY ONLY WHEN ITS GOOD FOR RUSSIAN TANKS AND BAD FOR GERMAN TANKS.
@"And second turret on PZ-4 was reality"Of course it is its a schmallturm taken from panther improvement project. There was a project to fit this turret to PzIV, you can find drawnings in some publications.In WOT some penetration, damage, armor, engine power, camo values and combinations with modules are hypothetical (not even fantasy), like schmallturm with 8,8 on vk3001 h or armor on VK4502, but shape of tanks are always historical(not always size).So only turret witch can be fit to E100 (besides Krupp and Maus turret) is E75 turret.
Fuck you all with your shitty adler turretsThat adler turret is designed by some german scale modeller in 2000This krupp turret is the only turret that was suggested for the e-100, and was designed in 1944i suggest you all to download the book about it by thomas l. jentz, it features the original german drawings from this turretThis turret is so high beceause it features two guns mounted above each other, that adler turret could never hold this thing.
"i suggest you all to download the book about it by thomas l. jentz, it features the original german drawings from this turret"I read it. Now what? I want only to consider uparmored (and slightly largered) E75 turret on E100, thats all. Happy now anonymous troll?"I sugest you to fix your behaviour and push devs to do realistic stats in game like ROF, Speed, DMG, TURRET TURNING SPEED, Acuracy etc FOR ALL WHO SO DEEPLY INSIST ON SOME REALISTIC TURRET"Could be hard, ROF of IS was 1,5-2 ;]
"I read it. Now what? I want only to consider uparmored (and slightly largered) E75 turret on E100, thats all. Happy now anonymous troll?"There was never a turret designed fot the e-75, nor were production plans made for the whole thing.Yet again the e-75 turret you see all time a is king tiger turret only becouse some chinese modeller company's want to make money of misinformed modellers.greetings from anonymous troll
Q: Dear Overlord,I heard some news from RU forum that the transferment of T34 to M103 will be delay 1~2 patch from 6.6 because of the big change of German tanks, is it true ? A: M103 might be rescheduled for 6.7 update.
Guys, calm down, turret setup has been finalized.
Plz make both guns fit on Krupp turret. I would like to play both, but the Maus turret looks bad on this tank. Thx
Overlord why dont you even consider, just one bit too talk with us about it.Henschel Turret would be the Obvious choice for the Second turret, even the VK4502 AusB has the same turret as the Köening Tiger.I find it sad that you guys are so indiffrent about what we want and dont go into a Dialog with us about it, cause this is on alot of peoples mind and we care about this.
Mostly because we already have E-100 modelled with Maus and Krupp turrets. It'd be rather time-consuming to remodel it and will definitely push back the actual release date of series for about 2 months.Regarding KwK 170mm, sorry it wasn't planned initially. Thats Overlords words from forumQ:Overlord what if you put E-100 to game now and later when you will have time will be added adler turret?
"Yet again the e-75 turret you see all time a is king tiger turret only becouse some chinese modeller company's want to make money of misinformed modellers."And? It's a real turret from a real tank, no matter on what tank devs fit it in game. Same situation with schallturm on VK3002DB or VK3001H, real turret on real tanks, despite that both tank were rejected a long time before turret emerges.
Q: What will the damage of that 150mm be like You reckonOverlord - around 750 points like the russians/americanshave on their 152/155mm guns?A: Yup, around 750.
Uncrow, where possible we try to avoid adding sci-fi elements to the game. Especially this applies to post-war designs created by modellers.
Q: Overlord what if you put E-100 to game now and laterwhen you will have time will be added adler turret?A: Most unlikely. See why above.
"Uncrow,where possible we try to avoid adding sci-fi elements to the game. Especially this applies to post-war designs created by modellers. "Because the T-28 Prototype and T25 AT aren't complete fantasy, amirite? Nevermind that there is no such thing as a T34 with a 105mm gun (that's a T29 BTW), or that the devs completely ignore the impact the T23 had on us tank design - OBVIOUSLY IT'S A T20 TURRET ON ALL THOSE SHERMANS, THE PERSHING'S HULL IS NOT BASED ON A T23 CHASSIS AT ALL.Never mind that there are more US tanks that could be added for improved balance and to fill tier slots that aren't complete fictitious monsters. Balancing the T23 would have required removing the top engine and reducing HP. Instead you get lazy and give terrible excuses.Nevermind that a T-44 cannot mount a 122mm without killing the gunner, nevermind that the T-34-85 cannot mount the 100m, that the T-54's engines and armor are buffed beyond what they are in reality, Don't forget that the IS-4 gets the S-70, or that the BL-9 can even be equipped to a tank despite the horrendous results during trials.Yes, there are fantasy elements in all trees, and that's fine, but you pick and choose to get the results you want, and you do it in a very biased way. There is no reason that the E-100, essentially a fantasy tank, cannot use a fantasy turret, such as the Henschel. You cannot say on one hand that the T28 Prototype, 100% fantasy, is okay, and then say that the Adler and Henschel turret which is just as much fantasy, is not okay.Crap double standards are crap, and they lead to gameplay imbalances, perceived or not.
Draft projects, blueprints, and ideas that date back to WWII era are not the same thing as tank models created by famous modellers, produced somewhere in China, and displayed all over the Internet for the past few decades.
Realism is good and i dont mind the turret selection, but for balance sake don't let this tier 10 heavy be handicapped with a weak armored turret. It's hard enough fighting IS4 and IS7 with their hull armor slope being very effective, but their turrets are even more heavily armored or sloped. Frontal turret armor should be 250mm+ like in the VK45 series if its not sloped.
But Overlord...I must apologise for this, but isent the Henschel Turret on VK4502 AusB a complet fantasy aswell?I mean technicly you just resized it and buffed the Armor Value to fit a Tier9 tank, and the same for the E-75.Why is it then Fantasy, to do the same for the E-100?All it requires is another resized and Armor Fix, heck the model even exist so not like its fantasy.I do agree that the Adler is prolly out of the Question, but lets face it... its closest to anything that would prolly have made it to full production had it been created.So that leaves the Henschel turret or the "Eliteturm" for the VK4502 AusB, why cant that be turned into a Model fitted for the E-100It doesnt require alot of work for the Design department since you've made it for 3 tanks now.
Dear Overlord,>>A: M103 might be rescheduled for 6.7 update. It's a bit disappointed for me.....But overlord, will the T110 also come in the 6.7 patch?If it is, it will be a good news for meThanks,Wilson
Lets curse the developers through the voodoo magic for this ugliness!)
Heinsell and Alder turret are fiction like BL10 on ISU 152 and object 704. They should have stock 152mm guns from SU-152. And where is 128mm from JagdTiger on E-100, 128mm from Maus is to weak for this tank. Why you don't give this gun???And this 15cm gun, how fast will be 3.75/min????
Can we Mount both guns on the Krupp turret?
Trumpeter modelling company = china
Will the Maus turret have more armor AND hitpoints?
I believe game balance is much more important than historical accuracy. As long as the tank itself is balanced, you can call the turret whatever you want to. In fact, I'd actually like it more if you invented fictional turrets/guns for more customization options.
Guys, questions regarding modules and setups will be covered later, after the release of 6.5 update. Some things haven't been finalized yet.
I have hope that you haven't finalized yet. I want other turret ald gun rom JT.
"Draft projects, blueprints, and ideas that date back to WWII era are not the same thing as tank models created by famous modellers, produced somewhere in China, and displayed all over the Internet for the past few decades. "Where are the blueprints, drafts, etc, for a prototype of a prototype? You have two complete fantasy tanks in the US tree, real fantasy tanks that were not even conceived until you thought them up.This is on par with the fantasy elements in the Henschel turret, and the Adler turret to a lesser extent. You simply got lazy and took the easy way out instead of trying to balance the tanks properly, just like you have done on several occasions.What good is 200mm of armor 30 degrees from the horizontal if it can be conveniently ignored by firing at the much softer, higher reward turret? The answer is it's worthless. You are asking players to trade some defense for no defense based upon a larger alpha strike, in which no other tank must make such a decision.And finally, I don't think anyone is asking for a fantasy turret persee, they want a turret that will protect them and be balanced. People reject the Kruppturm on the incredibly weak armor it has, and they want that fixed. If this means the Henschel or Adler turret, fine. If that means a Krupp turret with 260mm+ armor facing, fine.But to ignore it is give the E-100 "King Tiger Syndrome" from before patch 6.4.
Rabit WoT Fans emerge in droves don't they. Thanks for the answer Overlord....beastly gun on this thing.
Thinking about it a bit more...I still have reservations but I suppose the fictitious Henschel turret looks pretty neat. The Adler turret looks okay, as well.I do think an interesting solution might be: give the Maus some sort of turret upgrade (perhaps even the Krupp turret pictured here) and let it carry the 15cm gun. The E-100 meanwhile starts with the Maus turret and can upgrade to the Henschel turret (or Adler, but I prefer the look of Henschel) and can upgrade a long 12.8cm, similar to the Jagdtiger's top gun. Thus, the Maus would be the final word in the German tree on raw firepower and armour, but at the expense of laughable mobility. The E-100, meanwhile, would be a much more "balanced" tank, (as balanced as a heavy gets) sporting a faster, more accurate, but lower damage cannon and relatively superior mobility.MrTankFan
Thanks for this MAUS clone turret...Irony mode OFF
Well Overlord i just wanna you ppl think abou somethingLots of Russ/US/GB/French tanks are after war some of them are from era of 1950 maybe 1960 dont know but they have some modules (engine etc) from 1960 what I heared. On other side we have German tanks which are till 1945 some of them was real some of them was only on blueprints but they are limited by end of the war. So German tanks are facing against something what have 15 years development and progress profiting from expirience of ww2 or korean war.But what we know is fact that even in this time (till 1945) germans know about issues which had both turret (Maus,Krupp) so its logical step to expect they will replace this two unacceptable turrets by something new (yes maybe it will be based on some turret which exist in this time i dont know).But what i know is fact that German are missing 15 years of development and progress which have other nation in this game and it cant be balanced by adding few more HP. From 1939 to 1945 they was able evolve from PZ-1 and PZ-2 to KT and Maus even to E-100 although only on blueprints so dont tell us they will not be able evolve 1 turret which will use new knowhow like sloped armor, low profile etcI dont say give E-100 Adler turret and option of use 150 mm or even 170 mm gun but you can do some turret lookable more than turrets which are on E-100 now. (you still can use already existing turrets but only what you need to do with them is resized them for E-100 and give them armor protection which should have T10 heavy tank)
Q: ... (you still can use already existing turrets but only what you need to do with them is resized them for E-100 and give them armor protection which should have T10 heavy tank) ...A: Krupp turret will provide the necessary level of protection.
Overlord, can the E-100 reachs 40 km/h without going down hill ? If not , what's its normal speed ?
What will be the main differences between the Maus and the E-100? I know the E-100 will be able to be upgraded, but will the Maus still be competitive after the E-100's release? Will the Maus eventually get the ability to be upgraded?Secondly, would it be possible to make the Tiger tank a two-way bridge between the heavy lines? Right now you can only go from Tiger (P) to Tiger, but it'd be nice if Tiger drivers aiming for the Maus could transfer to the Tiger (P).
Whether this is replied to or not, I agree with an earlier post that WG needs to learn to better respond and accommodate for the wishes of the people. There is a reason why EVE online is so successful, because CCP does a superb job with dealing with the public and releasing what we want. I don't need to ramble on the blatant double-standards listed as well, for they are more than obvious. You can do what you will to the E-100, but its one of the main driving factors German Heavy drivers still drive German Heavies. Expect to see the repercussions of not only ignoring the public, but going against their wishes. As a NA player, expect that a few of us are outspoken, but wrong enough of us and expect that your foothold on this side of the world in the gaming world WILL die out.
@"Expect to see the repercussions of not only ignoring the public, but going against their wishes."Maybe yes or maybe not. For now WG is forcing own vision like a... well tank. Sometimes this vision is going alongside with public (E50 as top medium) sometimes against (ROF nerf in 8,8). For me I don't really like WG's balancing methodology which punishes good players in average tanks and I don't like that they to seldom admits that they make mistakes (85mm on T-28 which force use 107mm on KV, which force using 122mm on KW3, poor balance for BL10 on ISU152 and 107mm on SU85 - tanks with excellent camo with great firepower with too high ROF, poor balance of T54 - 200 mm compared to 120 mm on Panther 2 which means that t54 always penetrate and Panther seldom etc etc).Overlord do you have some nice pics of Porsche Tigers? It would be great to see these tanks :)
Overlord that turret is simply ugly as hell... just give us a alternativ skin no matter of the stats...
@plasothttp://forum.model-hobby.pl/viewtopic.php?t=120It's a model but
There's no democracy, they don't know what it is, so we never won't get what we wish for...So paying will not be an option for the game. Sad-sad, cos i like it. The idea is very nice.
why cant u make all four turrents? and let them be optional. and let players choose which one they want to have. is it so hard to make couple more turrets? omg, i cant belive that +200 workers cant do four turrets fot one tank.
Honestly I just hope there will be eventually a tier 9 and 10 heavy that is competitive with the Russian ones, you are never even close to generate XP like in the other lines. I just saw a video of a real IS3, wow Wargaming build one lower and faster, you guys tell us about history. But in the end Russian tanks get buffed even the ones that have been build. Did you consider that the T-54 never could have nor had that turret traverse nor the reload, besides that he is bigger anyway. German tanks are big ok, so Russian ninja tanks spot first, lol I forgot the German line are the snipers. But hey the size doesn't give advantage to crew abilities? Besides being more accuracy the German line is treated like a step child, you guys reduced the historical speed value for Tiger and King Tiger. Last not least German tanks are the only tanks that burn while getting hit in the front. You guys have the right to do everything you want, just don't bullshit us plz.
Even now..when the t54 is f..useless..in front of pershing and panther 2..you still complain about it?? i have Tiger, King Tiger, Vk4502, Maus, Panther, and T54..the weakest tank..by far is T54..wtf guys?
You just can't play the T-54. It's the OP tank besides the IS-4. I'm sorry that is fact. Do you want hear more, if they make the T-54 so low why is he even not more penalized in view range and it bounces every second shot. I hope the patton and E 50 bounce the same amount. T 54 is one of the most XP generating tank, just learn how to use it.
"Overlord said... Q: ... (you still can use already existing turrets but only what you need to do with them is resized them for E-100 and give them armor protection which should have T10 heavy tank) ... A: Krupp turret will provide the necessary level of protection."Well ok let Krupp turret on it i will probably never use it but give us some option change from Maus turret to something else.Maus turret had enormous slow traverse speed. For me is 150mm gun forbiden option coz Krupp turret but i believe for 128mm gun should be better turret (i mean better protection and traverse speed than for 150mm gun, dont know maybe armor protection on Maus turret is anought but what i know? Maus turret is to slow for this class of tank)You separate T10 heavy tanks on 2 different class1st is Maus(IS-4) class (stronger armor,more HP,less moving,less traverse speed(tank and turret))2nd is IS-7(E-100) class (less armor,less HP, more moving, better traverse speed(tank and turret))But what was the major point of my post is turret from which will not rise ours stomach
T 54 is one of the most XP generating tank - this is very true.. but i feel ofended when u say i dont know how to use it..i know how to play it..very very good..but after the patch almost every shot penetrates me in front.. panther2 and pershing have more penetration then my 200 mm turret..so.. i know how to play it..but is not the tank that used to be
Just look at turney and clan war battles, T-54 is number 1 choice. You won't see a panther II, sometimes a Pershing. We have an all medium player in our clan, top choice T54 second Pershing and last Panther II. Panthers shells bounce too much so accuracy is not cutting it. Best performance by a huge margin T54, the only Achilles heel is the ammo rack, but hey for that you can use wet ammo rack. Lol so the only real disadvantage of a T54 is one less equipment slot. It's an OP tank and don't worry it stays like this, it's one of the favorite tanks of the Dev's.
"it's one of the favorite tanks of the Dev's. "You mean favorite nation :P
This game is in a way Hollywood of the 80's. Hollywood produced a lot Vietnam era movies like Rambo and Chuck Norries to turn it into somehow a win. This is what Wargaming is doing, winning the cold war in a game. I don't mind it, it's just the dishonesty that sucks. They just should realize that doesn't fly in the west especially in America the player base is less forgiving. You see it on the Server evening by evening. The biggest problem they have is how they get more balance in this game, without freaking out the Russian player base. It's hard to take a kids OP toys and make it even. It's a dilemma but still not solved by fake statistics, it took way to long for the bug fixes in the German line. Oh no I'm sorry huge BUFFs. I'm still somewhat grateful for the bugfixes last patch, but it still doesn't give you the prerogative to claim this game is balanced. The most important thing for you guys is, like someone mentioned before' it's your game you guys can do what you want'.
If you cut the view range of T54 would make the other mediums more competitive, besides the view range is crazy for the T54 bein so low. I the view range would be at 400m is more comparable in the overall game 'physics' taller tanks better view. The T54 is truly a sour spot in that sense.
Dear overlord,Does the E-100 get the 174/175mm? I've been looking forward to this tank in particular and I hope it gets the third and final gun its supposed to have ;)
any screens of E-100 with Maus turm with 128mm?
http://static.hlj.com/images/dra/dra6011.jpgnot screens but overall it will look horribly... only retarded engineers would think E-100 would get maus turret, it's just they had no option to make new turret by end of war...Also you could make better turret not this shit, who cares about 'it's made by modeller', same is BL-10 on isu-152 or 130mm on IS4 both are PURE FANTASY things, I could count more 100% fantasy things on RUSSIAN tanks mostly ...
Lol I agree with double standards in historically accuracy the guy in previous post mentioned. But I like the pic you posted, nice model. I'm all for Henschel or Adler turrets, mainly because of the looks. But I think the maus turret option is not ugly. I would like to switch and swap and try different set ups with turret and guns.
If the Dev's are worried the E series will be the most beautiful tank line and therefore make afford in creating cool turrets..... Just my 2cents as answer. You OP Russian tanks are looking ugly, even though you made IS3 much lower than it was built. IS7 looks like a sunny side up egg head. The only cool looking tanks are T34-85 and Object704. You made the turret of T54 so low nobody would fit in, it looks rediculous. So even you stop short on the E Series I never go to OP fantasy wanna be line.
I never liked that tier 10 are automatically elite. That's the last tank of every nation and somehow by setup the most boring. I would like to see for all tier 10 more options. I guess there is no player who wouldn't like it, no matter which faction. Think about that, plz. Thx.
So mr overlord, we the players are no fools. We play free until the Russian bias is resolved. None of us want to play T54 vs T54. The whole point is variety. I mean, how can a tiny squat russian tank have such a high rof, be invisible and have a lrge view range. BIAS is not tolerated. We play free until this is resolved, and maybe just move on to another game. World of Warplanes...I can just see the oped russian planes and the miserable BF109
Overlord, I read that the green colour of the Russian tier 8 and higher tanks makes them look smaller than reality, also confers invisibility. How can we paint our tanks like the Russian tanks?
isu 152 with bl 10 its not fantasycheck thishttp://dic.academic.ru/pictures/enc_tech/isu152_13.jpg
"Anonymous said... isu 152 with bl 10 its not fantasy check this http://dic.academic.ru/pictures/enc_tech/isu152_13.jpg June 23, 2011 11:59 AM "Its not change the fact that Russ tank are OP and others especially german tanks are deeply underpower.And another fact that when its good for russ tank its not problem dont keep the realistic things but when its will be good for german tanks its a huge problem.
Overlord, If u doesnt want to realize the adler turret, it is possible that to switch krupp and mausturret? I mean it is better that the ugly krupp turret is the basic one and the maus is the top one with better values. (its strange to get the ugly one as reward...)
I think that PIC is a fake! The gun looks unreal!
Yup you are right, this pic is fake. I'm a photographer and there is no lens that can keep the whole object focused, especially at that time. Today you would be able with digital imagery and expensive lenses to get a shot like this.
In thought, why? Why do the dev's refuse to listen to the cries of the people who PAY for their game? If people want a buffed up 4502 turret on a tank, why the hell not? I honestly dont see the point here, we're obviously not going to be listened too, why post on this blog anyways, I mean scroll up! HOW MANY PEOPLE LIKE THE KRUPP TURRET OVER THE ADLER? Who cares if its fictional? Its a damned VK4502 eliteturm with a slight enlargment, whats so fictional about that? You think for once they could throw the German tankers a bone and give us ONE little upgrade (SUCH AS THE ADLER TURRET) just ONE time! is that too much to ask? Im not saying the devs are bad or anything, nor am I disregarding the good tanks in the tree such as the AMAZING King tiger, Im only making a request, I have put up with the sadder tanks in the german tree, and feel that we should be rewarded with just ONE little module, thats all.Devildog982WOT Beta Tester(not so anonymous now)
They build a prototype with the BL 10. But it didn't work well, it never entered service. On that pic that is shown, the gun is the BL 8.
"Even now..when the t54 is f..useless..in front of pershing and panther 2..you still complain about it?? i have Tiger, King Tiger, Vk4502, Maus, Panther, and T54..the weakest tank..by far is T54..wtf guys?"Compare - Panther II turret got on the front 120mm, T54 got 200mm, top Panther gun got average penetration 220mm, top T54 gun got average penetration 219 mm. Who got better chance to penetrate? In close combat T54 devasted Panthers, they just dinging all the time from the turret cause in facehugging its the only reachable spot on the tank and with better mobility T54 can easily keep Panthers in good tactical situation. Only way to battle with T54 is sniping from a distance, but better T54 camo values and similar view ranges to Panther makes it very hard. No, Panther II is still not balanced with T54 I hope that E50 will fit better.
well iv been palying for about a year now and they dont listen to us example 14 August 2010 i posted a topic about the crits the tiger I took and it got ignored till the 6.4 patch so while i would like the "eliteturm" it wont happen as its what the devs want not what the players want StorrmDemon (still wondering why i play this)
Yes, with some imbalance issues, I still can't wait to have the E75 and E100 in my garage. I want a German heavy with speed afterall. Thx for the preview. I'm curious which patch will add the new German TD line? After Russian heavy changes? Before French tank tree? So patch 6.7 American heavies? 6.8 Russian heavies and minor German adjustments? 6.9 new German TD line? 7.0 new French tank tree? The last patch number would fit for a whole new tank tree, lol. Thx
gemran make big armour boxes cause NO tank can penetrate that armour, and then , when some start penetrating that armour they improve that rmour by making it sloped.that turret "krupp SUX" no one LIKES how it will work and how it will looks likeplease delete the E-100 Turret model and start again. please
this is how the E series Should bethe Turret you use ingame in that E-100 Screenshots are from the E-90 with dual antiaircraft 88http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/picturesr/b1000.jpgThe turret you show us overlord its uggly like no other and, and... it will be like Tier 8 kv5 turret,.... NO THX we dont whant that useless thing
Wot teamKeep up the good work. Your new models looks nice, and it's going to be fun with some changes in tank trees.
Sheesh, I only got through about thirty of the posts before I had to stop. I was laughing too hard.The posters are so freaking angry because the turret doesn't LOOK GOOD?LOL... nazi germany (the supposed makers of this vehicle) was not exactly known for making aesthetically pleasing tanks.Geez, Overlord. Is it like this all the time on your blog... or worse?
...15 cm KwK 44/L38 gunGood.
ok can we all STOP ARGUING! Overlord has already stated that the turret is final, if you are so against it, find a turret you like off another tank in the game, and mod it in a visual file. The you can have whatever turret you want. And because its a visual file, its kinda like a tank skin.
So let compare IS-7 and E-100 with Maus Turm 128mm L55_______________________IS-7/E-100Max Speed _______________(+/-)Traverse Speed __________(+/-)Turret Traverse Speed ___(+/-)Radio Range _____________(0/0)Visibility ______________(+/-)Sight ___________________(0/0)Camouflage Bonus ________(+/-)Lower Profile ___________(+/-)Gun _____________________(+/-)HP ______________________(?/?) but maybe (-/+)Armor ___________________(?/?) but maybe (-/+)IF RMS will be good anought through sloped but we all know this will not happen(in visibility IS-7 have advantage coz IS-7 is much lower profile tank so its much harder to detect)So we have 7 points for IS-7 and MAYBE 2 for E-100 but we cant be sure even these two pointsSo dear Overlord tell us how you wanna balance these two tanks? Its something what can not be balance by giving few more HP to E-100
"So dear Overlord tell us how you wanna balance these two tanks? Its something what can not be balance by giving few more HP to E-100 "Like the Tigers ,this was reality :http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tiger1.htmEspecially this read :"During a scouting patrol two Tigers encountered about 20 Russian tanks on their front, while additional Russian tanks attacked from behind. A battle developed in which the armor and weapons of the Tiger were extraordinarily successful. Both Tigers were hit (mainly by 76.2 mm armor-piercing shells) 10 or more times at ranges from 500 to 1,000 meters. The armor held up all around. Not a single round penetrated through the armor. Also hits in the running gear, in which the suspension arms were torn away, did not immobilize the Tiger. While 76.2 mm anti-tank shells continuously struck outside the armor, on the inside, undisturbed, the commander, gunner, and loader selected targets, aimed, and fired. The end result was 10 enemy tanks knocked out by two Tigers within 15 minutes" (JENTZ, Thomas L.; Germany's TIGER Tanks - Tiger I and II: Combat Tactics; op. cit.).Now about what are you talking ?
Lol, plz don't change that the German tanks burn by shots in their front. It's so much more fun.
Dont understand how this: "Like the Tigers ,this was reality : http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tiger1.htm Especially this read : "During a scouting patrol two Tigers encountered....." have connection with my topic:"So let compare IS-7 and E-100 with Maus Turm 128mm L55_______________________IS-7/E-100Max Speed _______________(+/-)....."
That way will be balanced like Tigers are balanced to his tiers if you dont understand this sorry.
Why not make life easy and just put in the adler maus and henschel turrets?its clear that the henschel turret is the favorite and lets be honest clearly the better looking , lower profile and if 3 turrets arent possible at the very least make the henschel turret one of the two
are you serius??????? you really put that ''UGLY THING''in my beautyful E-100 ? plzz you must be kidding ¬¬
addler or henschel turret must be ..¡
So when is the M103 being added?
Edelhonk said...When will you morons finaly understand...this so called "Adler" or "Henschel" turret never exists, not even plans of that thing. It,s a f***ing fantasy from a german modeler, not more.The only two turrets planned for the E100 were the normal Maus Turret and the modified Maus II turret (the one you see on overlords pics). hey the top turret for the e-50 is made up so wtf
The developers are making progress in ruining the game for german tank players.The IS class will be the king of tier 10 and the game.
Sorry, but that is not true!First it was planed, to use a smaller turret, (trumpeter has a modell in their Programm with a smaller turret)http://www.trumpeter-china.com/a/en/product/armor/1_35_Series/2010/1116/1487.htmlThen Hitler want to have the same big Krupp turret which is on the Maus on the E-100!E-100 (came frome 100tons) must grow, so they give the E100 on more track roller and the hull grow. now the weight was nearly 140tons.Sebastian Nast (German modeller) create the E90 with an fictitious turret and the original number ov track rollers.So, if u combine that two tanks, more track rollers and this turret, the E-100 won`t be so ugly...This would be nice overlord!
well if u actually go off what the real life designs and specs. were..this game would be totally different...would be nice to see all these tier 10 heavys be kinda equal in some way....clan wars has become somewhat lame with 15 maus or is-7's on 1 team :).. and i know this is a little off subject but maybe make limits on the tiers invovled in clan wars...like 2 tier 10,,,3 9's ect...so u dont have to play this game a year before you can participate in clan wars
You guys really complain to much
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I would really only get this tank if it had a Henschel turret, but seeing as that's not going to happen I will content myself with the tiger 2 and be done with it. I have to say though I am disappointed with Overlord. As a guy doing public relations he has a habit of avoiding issues he doesn't like, he cherry picks questions that are answered in the blogs and avoids issues people really want to get into. Plus his answers could use a little more substance and a lot less shrugging people off with curt vague responses. No offense Overlord, but you need to work on your people skills, and coming from a guy who wrote this admittedly rude critique of you, that's saying something.
Who's down for a 15 cm L/100 cannon on the E-100?
I'm going to quit WoT if they don't change the turret.
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