New German tier 8 light tank via VK2801 (some might have already found that out) will be
RU 251 Prototype SpPz mit 90mm BK
Dimensions: 6.2 m x 3 m x 2.49 m
RU 251 Prototype SpPz mit 90mm BK
Dimensions: 6.2 m x 3 m x 2.49 m
Crew: 4
Weight: 24 tons (loaded)
Speed: 78~80 km/h
Main Armament: 90 mm PzK
Engine: Daimler-Benz diesel, 500 hp
Ground pressure: 0.70 kg/sq.cm
Please tell me there will be a way to reach it from VK2801, or at least an xp refund since VK had such a steep ecping curve, that it was almost as harf to get it, as it is with arty ...
ReplyDeleteIt will be researchable via VK2801
DeleteGreat ... now all I need is full compatibility in terms of crew, so my crew does not waste here :-P
DeleteSo...how bout the leopard? will it also come from this tree?...
Deletesoo tier 6 VK 2801 -> Tier 7 "Aufklarung Panther" -> Tier 8 this post correct?
ReplyDeleteFirst sorry for any misspellings.
DeleteAbout Gigih question: It would be really great to know. I personally think that a 40+ tonnes LT, aka Aufklärungspanzer Panther, would be a little out of place; as the EU community had already some other suggestions:
- VK 2002 MAN (http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/141263-suggestion-tier-vi-german-light-tank/page__st__40__pid__2742424#entry2742424)
- VK 2801 DB (http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/141263-suggestion-tier-vi-german-light-tank/)
- VK 1602 (MAN) Leopard (http://forum.worldoftanks.ru/index.php?/topic/527740-vk-1602-leopard-%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F/page__pid__13274853#entry13274853)
- Porsche Typ 245 (http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/141263-suggestion-tier-vi-german-light-tank/page__st__60__pid__2829624#entry2829624)
So I still hope that we see VK 2801 K -> VK 2801 DB -> Spähpanzer Kette, aka RU 251 Prototyp SpPz mit 90mm BK.... and yes, Prototyp withgout "e" :). So how will the LT tree look like?
On another note, will the E-50 and the E-50 Martyneko see at least a new turret? As the last one is already 100% fiction, a new tuuret wouldnt make a big different.
Third question, will we see that the VK 1602 and VK 2801 K, gets its old weight back? I mean currently looks it a little off :(
I fix some typos, and one question doesnt need a answer anymore.
DeleteAbout the second question and the turret. forget this one :) As the dev already said they take the 0 deg of the testserver (0.8.4) back.
About the third question, will we see that the VK 1602 and VK 2801 K, gets its old weight back? I mean currently on the testserver, it looks a little off :(
Info has been on SilentStalkers blog ( http://ftr-wot.blogspot.cz/ ) for long time already..... what has happened to you man,you used to be THE SOURCE for WoT inside news and developments but now you just copy paste old stuff from other peoples blogs.
ReplyDeleteRelax dude. First, it's always better to have the actual english info from a real WG employee, not from a random guy who does it in his spare time. Second, the info hasn't been on for ages, I mean - this came from Storm's article from yesterday. The fact Overlord didn't put it up in english within minutes or something means he actually has a life... and that's a good thing.
DeleteVk has nerfed speed,armour, hp/ton ratio and gun accuracy and aiming time. I want at least old aimtime back! Now IT sucks in tier X battles. i can only sit in Bush... Gun nerf reduced its counters out abilities. It is now a vk3001h with screwed mm :/
Deletepatch 0.9.9?
ReplyDeleteYour're pancaking in support of WG after that little 'scandale' SS - ease it up a bit or we choke on all the valentine sweetness, we tankers not tinker bells ;-)
ReplyDeleteThe VK2801 is a niche tank that few plays well, the nerfs will ruin it and make it ripe for the scrapyard. Nerf gold for creds or heat damage or gun load time, not speed and agility, that's what make it a light tank.
What scandal? Can I get some details?
DeleteI think he's referring to silent stalker a.k.a Frank Davis
Deleteand he's right, ss should be the last man in lifting a finger when it comes to WG
The banning and unbanning of SS is still shrouded in mystery...some believe it to be an extensive maskirovka to cover the real story; rumors have it that he may have sent six red roses to someone in the WG staff that didn't appreciate the gest. The misunderstanding was cleared up when SS admitted that it was ignorance on his part that caused him to send an even number of roses instead of an odd one!
DeleteGawd this blog interface is making a number of my Ipad...-)
Oh my god, people, give it a rest. It's been dealt with, I didn't do exactly the best I could, but what happened happened, Czechout got fired and last time I heard, she was looking for work at some German games studio. I have nothing against WG, I disagree with some of their policies but that's it. No need to bring this up here.
DeleteGag reflex, a mild and humorous one with a touch of truth!-)
DeleteSomehow you should be prepared to hear more about it....
So please, back to WG uber nerfing our favorite German scout :-)
I wish the RU-251 was introduced before nerfing the VK - give us a better scout and we may live with it!
DeleteHey Overlord!
ReplyDeleteIn a recent Q&A, SerB has stated that WoT hasn't been yet promoted in Japan.
Well, the first season of the Girls und Panzer anime is coming to end in March, and people have been generally enthusiastic to it. The creator also stated that there's a possibility of a new season afterwards, so why not support a second season financially in exchange for some advanced product placement? It would be probably be a bulls-eye ;)
We haven't entered Japanese market properly yet, that's true.
DeleteAs for, anime-thing, will see.
Splendid! Thanks for a reply, and i hope i started something big ;)
DeleteWoT was specifically mentioned - as a game that some of the characters (Anteater Team, who drive the Type 3 Chi-Nu) play intensively - in an episode of 'Girls und Panzer', so some kind of tie-in would seem an obvious move. According to Wikipedia "Plastic model tank figures based on those within the anime have topped sales charts in Japan" (Link: http://cdn.hobbylink.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Girls-und-Panzer-02.jpg); certainly WoT skins copying the garish colour schemes the girls paint their tanks in in the first half of the series are very popular, so it would seem a good idea for WoT to have these as purchasable camos in-game.
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ReplyDeleteThank God! A glimmer of hope.
ReplyDeleteYesterday I got the worst news yet in my Wot life:
1. My beloved VK28 is getting hammered hard.
2. Tank S is not gonna happen in the European tree. Game mech cant support it.
Dont wanna be a whiner - and i belive most changes are done for good reasons, but the VK is my baby.
Reduced slope of the lower nose plate of the Pz. V Panther to 55 degrees...this i read in the 8.4 public test that was announced on the american server. You told us in a previous post that the slope on panther will be increased so that proves that WG are nothing but liars. And lying the community that pays for your game is not a smart move.
ReplyDeleteSlope of Panther lower front plate was reduced.
Deletehttp://overlord-wot.blogspot.ro/2013/02/wot-extra-84-stuff.html
Deletecheck that...
Silviu, do you know how to read?
DeleteHere is what overlord said:
Pz V Panther: lower front plate slope INCREASED to its HISTORICAL (you see what we did there?) 55deg
Here is what the patch notes say:
Reduced slope of the lower nose plate of the Pz. V Panther to 55 degrees
They used different wording, but the end result is the same: Panther lower plate slope is 55 degrees.
Any thoughts on if we'll be getting a premium American TD any time soon? German tanks tend to fit my favorite play style best, so this is good news for me, but with two TD lines, it feels like the American tech tree is due for an addition.
ReplyDeletehttp://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/211141-e-50m-gun-depression-nerf/page__st__60__pid__4029205#entry4029205
ReplyDeletedont tell me you dont specifically keep germans low... ever again.
E100 turret,
E50&E75 frontal transmission "fix"
VK rising up while getting nerfhammered (leo vs t50-2? dont kid me!)
I dont expect much of german tanks in THIS game anymore!
Sad its such a great nation with alot of inventions and imo the higest engineering skills allover the world.
But yeah, its a russian game.
Just dont forget to add more kommunistic slogans for tanks.
oh Btw. please remove trhe german tree, its not worth being called such.
wargaming have too much money apparently, its starting to fill the hallways at their volcano HQ; so, to fix the problem they are nerfing german tanks just to piss off the people who play them (cause everyone exclusively plays one nationality right?)so that their detrimental money excess goes away.
Deleteits a conspiracy i tells ya
VK2801 was arguably better than T-50-2; it had the speed, plus actual armor and a powerful 105mm howitzer. Yes, T-50-2 may turn/accelerate faster, but you can't discount the advantages VK2801 has right now in 8.3. It is a monster against SPGs and LTs.
DeleteYou also seem to ignore the fact that since in 8.4 tier 5 won't be the end tier for german LT, you won't be able to compare tier 5 Leopard to T-50-2. The ELC AMX will likely be its closest comparison.
Do you also forget that the most accurate guns in the game are mounted on E-50 and E-50M? Both exceptionally good top tier medium tanks with their immense power-to-weight, heavy chassis and thick, sloped armor making them excellent for ramming and unparalleled for sniping.
Yes, fires from transmission hits are silly and unrealistic. So are 70 degree auto-bounces and zero-damage shots.
And let me tell you about the fuel tanks on Russian tanks, and how easily they burst. Let me tell you about the IS and how it's armor isn't really all that great. Let me tell you about the inaccuracy and agonizingly long aim time of Russian guns. Let me tell you about the SU-5, SU-8, and T-43's mediocre performance.
Sure, there are a few tanks in the German tree that aren't quite what they could be. The Tiger doesn't fill heavy tank role well at tier 7 - honestly think it should be tier 6. The VK3001 P isn't that good. But every natino has a handful of tanks like this. T25/2 is essentially a glorified Hellcat that is slower and bigger. The Sau-40 is basically a large Hetzer with very little armor and a major vulnerability in the turret. AMX 38 is basically a Hotchkiss that can fight tier 5. Crusader is essentially inferior to the M7 MT with its low top speed. Black Prince is both the slowest tier 7 heavy and the poorest-armed.
Jagdpanther I/II. Hetzer. E-50 series. Panther series. VK3601. Panzer 3. King Tiger. Hummel/GW Panther. All of these german tanks are very good tanks for their tier.
So stop crying about anti-german/pro-russian bias.
Well first of all the T-50-2 is a way smaller target, it has better acceleration and better traverse, so it's a better scout. The 105 howitzer is not a better weapon, only the retarded gold ammo is OP. And the poor VK got nerfed pretty hard. It was stated that it was balanced for a level higher yet they nerfed it.
DeleteBut let's move on to the E50 issue. Is it the only tank with a clipping problem? No! Just a few examples from the forums: SU-76, Object 263, IS-3, IS-4, Cromwell, M46 Patton, Lorraine 40 t... and I'm not even at the end of that topic. Do these tanks get nerf erm sorry I mean "fixed"? No, only that poor german med, which was far from op (it was by far the worst tier 10 med last month on the EU server according to wot-news winstats), yet it was the most useable german tier 10. Is this a big nerf? Absolutely! On same levels you can't even aim at enemy mediums without showing them your sides. Let's not forget that the turret of this tank was designed by WG, it is a fictional turret, and they nerf it because it has clipping issues????? Desing a decent turret for god sake... so there's no german hate right? You decide...
Yes, the 105 is superior. For many reasons (can kill LT/SPG in 2-3 hits, for one), but I'm not going to argue that.
DeleteWhat I will argue about is this E-50 stuff. 8.4 only JUST hit public test yesterday. Already there are tons of people voicing their opinions against this change. Yes, it is a stupid change. But don't get all up in arms proclaiming it's "anti-german bias" unless this change actually carries through to the live 8.4 patch. Game companies are made up of tons of people; perhaps one of them decided to make this change not realizing the consequences. Certainly WG.net is hearing about it now; and they will decide formally what route to take. Until then, we don't know from who this change comes; whether some lower-level naive developer, or the people actually responsible for ongoing game balance.
And secondly, don't bash on Wargaming.net for the E-50's model design. Yes, I agree, reducing the gun depression to zero is ridiculous, but their ingame model of the E-50 is fine. Look at the drawings available online (such as the one here: http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/1-Vehicles/Axis/1-Germany/03-sPanzers/E-Series/E-50.htm ) and you'll find that yes, it has periscopes at the front of the hull roof. You'll also notice that the upgraded E-50 turret is just an enlongated schmalturm. That's literally all it is. The front of the turrets are identical.
Hell, remember the 2nd soviet TD line? They started on test with top guns much better than the top guns they ended up with on Live. Seriously, I'll be on your side concerning this E-50 gun depression nerf if it hits live, but don't spout "german hate" while it's still in test, and only the 2nd day of test at that.
I won't deny that the vk was OP with that gun for it's role, and it was even more broken with gold ammo, but it's wargaming's fault from the start for making super penetrating derp gun ammo. I support balancing tanks from the bottom of my heart really, but when they state that vk is balanced for a higher tier, yet when we have a look at it, and it's clear that they nerfed every aspect of the tank, it's a bit suspicious.
DeleteWhy do we have to raise our voices? It's simple: it's feedback on an idiotic decision, and let's be honest if we wouldn't have had raised our voices it'd gone live, crippling a tank for months til the next update. And yes this nerf won't make it into even the next tier of testing, but let's continue with our nice discussion :)
The problem is, this is a fictional tank, there are no valid blueprints of them. WG could have desingned a working turret, or they could desing a new turret now to fix it's cliiping problem. This would not represent any problem, because it's a fictional tank, yet they choose the nerf the hell out if it. (I really like it's model, it looks cool)
I remember them, they were OP so the got balanced. Is the E50 OP and needs nerfing? No! So I don't get this comparison. I didn't believe in german bias until this test but this is getting ridiculous. Except the M2 only german tanks got frontal depression nerf, did the SU 76 and object 263 got one? No! Call me paranoid but this is bs.
And just look at the Panzer IV, where during the nerfing process we were specifically assured by a dev (GeneralDirection) that it would get a gun with comparable DPM to the ZiS-4...and we're STILL WAITING. Currently we have a Russian tier 4 medium (T-28) with a greatly superior gun to the Tier 5 Panzer IV.
DeleteHow anyone can claim there isn't an anti-German bias at WG is beyond me at this point.
I can bet that if we get a continuation to the chaffee tree at americans the top-tier LT will be the T92 LT :).:P I do wonder when will we see new game modes rather than more tanks.
ReplyDeletePersonally I'm hoping to see M551 Sheridan as top (tier 10) light tank for Americans.
DeleteSans-MGM-51 Shillelagh, obviously. And perhaps with 152mm of not quite so massive damage as the russian 152mm M-10/ML-20, but I can definitely see it being worked in.
Oh god yes!
DeleteThe Sheridan is such a nice tank, loved driving it in Battlefield Vietnam, or being transported to the next island via helicopter :D
top scout tank will be tier 8:)
DeleteSo the VK2801 is overpowered due to HEAT shells. We already know that HEAT shells have a nerf incoming. Yet you decided to nerf the VK2801's other stats.
ReplyDeleteThe tank will be pretty horrible once the HEAT nerf arrives.
Can you tell us in advance what will you nerf on that tank so we can estimate is the tank worth to grind out or not. Like E50M you know :) First let people grind it and then screw it's gun depression so it became unplayable :)
ReplyDeleteLooks like the change is getting rolled back for the next test round
DeleteSource:http://ftr-wot.blogspot.cz/2013/02/e50e50m-old-depression-will-return-in.html
Oh, and now that it seems the disaster situation is averted, here is something to brighten the mood:
Deletehttp://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/211849-i-have-the-ultimate-solution-for-the-e-50m-depression-problem/
More and more prototypes which for good reasons never saw a series in addition to historical classic tanks screwed up with modules they never had (never would have been used even if theoretical possible) ... I don't know about the russian community, but in the western communities you lose more and more player because of this game becoming World of Fantasy.
ReplyDeleteWargaming seems to be incapable of implementing classics as they were in a balanced fashion and they are incapable of admitting to failure.
Lucky that they have no comparable competition for this tankgame, i hope Warthunder will teach you a lesson when it comes to planes.
Well, I like the prototypes very much and I think the game would be much more boring without them, so WG keep the good work and bring us as much prototypes as you can! The more tanks - the better:D
DeleteAnd btw - what other classics do U thought of? Most of them are already in game, of course, we're still waiting for, let's say, Bishop or Sherman Firefly but they'll be there in the not so far future. So I don't see a reason to complain, really.
MAN is there a lot of BAWWW on here. INTERNET TANKS...SERIOUS BUSINESS.
ReplyDeleteapparently its serious enough for you to post in this blog
DeleteI want my RU 251 now ! :-)
ReplyDeleteSorry to be off subject but I'm very disapointed in being able to deal with the high tier meds when I am in a heavy. For instance I know they should be much faster but they bounce more shots and take damage to well. An e75 shooting point blank should be devastating to a medium tank. There guns are way over powered as well. Please respond to this anybody and let me know how you feel about this. Thanks
ReplyDeleteDon`t forget WoT has zero to do with anything realistic, paper, scissors, rock format of battle is how it all works .
ReplyDeleteSo tier 8 is planned to be the max tier for light tanks? It makes sense due to their role. Also looking forward to this beauty.
ReplyDeleteHere is another picture from a quick Google search for the interested.
http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/8172/ru2514.jpg
So there no model yet no patch release date and No reason to believe you. But hey I'm sure the t-50-2 will still rape it
ReplyDeleteWill I get to the Leopard 1A4 through this branch?
ReplyDeleteMr. Overlord,
ReplyDeleteAs a head of WoT development, you have the privilege of knowing much that the fan base is unaware of. I am of course a fan of the game; for I have played off and on since the closed beta version of the game.
I say off and on because the game itself is incredible, but I feel that there is much more potential for the game; and of course that is obvious-however it has been two years... and there have been graphical improvements, more tanks, the two game modes and more maps but I want to know more about what will come in the future rather then having to wait and see month by month-what will come next.
Posting on your blog may not be most efficient, but I'd like to ask you if you may give us more information about the game in your blog- such future patches and ideas that are being tossed up in the air. I am sure many fans like myself would appreciate seeing more things on your blog. Also it would give us more of a chance to give WG constructive feedback.
Sincerely,
stinkchaos - US server
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ReplyDeleteit is now august. any news?
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