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Friday, November 16, 2012

[WoT] And Some More on 8.2

Adding some more information (basically minor features) on the upcoming update 8.2 for WoT to the stuff that has aldready been posted
  • Rendering distance (setting / graphics / draw distance) increased for low settings from 400 to 600 meters, for high settings - from 1000 to 1400 meters (this applies to terrain, objects, buildings)
  • Fixed low performance for some hardware configurations for the following maps: Steppes, South Coast, Highway, Mines, Widepark, Abbey
  • Fixed sharp camera movement when iteracting with other objects (tanks) in some situations
  • Fixed bug with "flying" tanks when ping is high and/or packet loss is in place
  • Fixed low repair cost for drowned vehicles (full repair costs)
  • Added Patton Valley medal for destruction of 100 units of the following tanks: M46 Patton and M48A1 Patton III
  • Fixed the discrepancy between displayed and actual hit boxes for some objects and buildings
  • For post-mortem spectator mode (ally tanks):
    • fixed the display of drowning indicator
    • added "no ammo" indicator
    • added display of module and crew condition
  • Fixed mini-map bug with SPG marker being displayed as tank marker

Thursday, November 15, 2012

[WoT] Live Long And Prosper

Back in late October 2012 we carried out a series of internal meetings dedicated to middle- and long-term planning for World of Tanks, paying attention only to really global and strategic issues of how the game will develop in 2013 and further.


The master document compeleted as a result of those talks contains 25 pages of new features that can be broken into 2 main categories:
  • things that are currently in-game, but are not polished / working properly (sometimes annoying) - have to be fixed in the foreseeable future
  • things that will make the game much better in the long run.

So, expect surprises in 2013. :)

Tuesday, November 13, 2012

[WoT] Doyle, Kubinka, and Much More. Part 7: Fourth Answer Bulletin

This post is the continuation of Q&A session with H. L. Doyle, well-known German WWII military exert. See previous post. Doyle's replies are bolded (just in case).

31.    Did machine gun nests of German tanks have worse or better armour then the rest of the front?

Like so many German components the so called MG Kugelblende was the subject of extensive engineering design to ensure that they provided the same protection as the frontal armour.  The first designs seen on the Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf.A were abandoned and not used on the Ausf.B and.  A new standardised Kugelblende 30 was reintroduced on the Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf.D and Pz.Kpfw.III Ausf.E.  This was designed to give the same protection as the 30mm armour of the tank on which it was mounted.  A Kugelblende 50 was subsequently designed for tanks with 50mm armour.   Below is a diagram from a German Manual which shows the cross section through a Kugelblende 50 first used on the Pz.Kpfw.III Ausf.J and Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf.F.  This clearly demonstrates that the armour protection was very good.  Indeed when the Pz.Kpfw.IV armour was increased to 80mm it was deemed that there was no need to improve this design.


 
With the rapid introduction of the Panther with its heavier sloped armour a brand new Kugelblende had to be developed.  This was not ready for the production of the Panther Ausf.D but was introduced on the Panther Ausf.A


32.    German Optics and view range know to be much better then allied and soviet tanks had.
How much advantage this gave to Germans?  How long did it take for the allies and soviets to catch up with Germans in this area? (Name the first tank which was as good in terms of optics like Panther or Tiger had.)

At the beginning of my career I was interested in the tanks of all nations but over time I have had to concentrate so that my research delivered benefits to people that buy my books.  As a result I am not qualified to say when the Allies caught up on German optics.

33.    How long would it take for a stationary Tiger H to aim in properly and make a perfect shoot on a stationary T-34-85 which is 700m away? (The Tiger hull is facing the enemy, the turret is 15° off target at the start)

Hopefully, I can answer this question at a later date – I need to consult some documents in my Archive but as I am away from home I do not have access right now.

34.    What is the range where the Panther/Tiger commanders usually would spot enemy movement in the distance? Identify targets and so on.

In my answer to Question 35 I comment on all round observation.  Concerning long distance the Panther and Tiger commander’s were provided with a bracket for mounting a SF14Z scissors binocular range finder.  The SF 14Z projected though the open cupola.  With a power of 10X25 these stereoscopic range finders gave a spectacular view when the Panzer was not under direct attack.  
Leaving aside terrain issues most of the German training documentation appears to concentrate on ranges up to 2000 m.  But for example the T.Z.F 12 and 12a gun sight used in the Panther was graduated to 3000 m for Pz.Gr.39/42 (Antitank rounds) and 4000 m for Spr. 40 high explosive so longer ranges are possible under special circumstances.
Below are range charts from the Tigerfibel a booklet issued to the crews of the Tiger Ausf.E which sets out in clear and light hearted manner various issues that will help them in the operation and protection of their Tiger.  




35.    So how aware can be someone in a tank? How clearly can they see the situation around them?

On 14th November 1939 the Waffenamt announced that based on the experience in the Polish campaign the troops had requested basic improvement in observation in the Pz.Kpfw.II.  Initially handheld periscopes were issued as an expedient.  By October 1940 a back-fit plan was introduced to install a cupola with periscopes giving all round observation.  The Pz.Kpfw.III and IV already had such a cupola. Although judged less important on a defensive weapon like Sturmgeschuetz the cupola with periscopes was introduced with the Sturmgeschuetz Ausf.G in late 1942.  All round observation thereafter was very good on all German Panzers.


36.    My question is a little specific; it is about a German light tank designs. As I’m currently gathering information about the VK 2801 Daimler Benz design; I had found in: Walter J. Spielberger (1994): Panther & Its Variants. Schiffer Military/Aviation History. Atglen, on page 176 a picture of a drawing about this tank (see here: http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/141263-suggestion-tier-vi-german-light-tank/). This picture/drawing was made by Mr. Doyle. So my question is: have you got any more information about this tank (VK 2801 Daimler Benz) or can he give a hint where and in which books I may find some more info’s?

The drawing on Page 176 was based on a “proposal” to simply mount the turret designed for the Sd.Kfz.234/2 armoured car on a standard Panther. 
All the documentary information on the VK 28.01 is published in our Panzer Tracts No 20-2 Paper Panzers. Plans had been made to cancel Panzer IV production but Tiger and Panther chassis were not to be diverted for other functions.  In June 1943 the VK 28.01 was proposed  as a new standardised Mehrzweckpanzer to be developed   as a basis for all other functions  such as reconnaissance, Flak, Jagdpanzer and light self-propelled guns with production to begin in April 1945. Krupp was chosen as the developer. Various ideas were proposed and many drawings produced but the project was cancelled in October 1943.


37.    What is your favourite light tank design (any nation is welcome, timeline 1916 - present)?

Czech LT Vz.38 (Pz.Kpfw.38 (t)) was for its period (1938) an excellent balance of mobility, observation, armour and armament.  Despite being made obsolete by 1941 (along with most pre-war designs) the Germans continued to use the chassis as the basis for many self-propelled guns until 1944.  Even then the components were used as the basis for a new self-propelled anti-tank gun the Jagdpanzer 38(t).

38.    Can the French AMX 50 series and the AMX M4 series be seen as a further step of the E-series and/or other German designs (Panther, Tiger II); or have those series seen more influence by other designs (like IS-3, Pershing, ARL 44)?

As far as I understand these French post war tanks tried to build on designs considered before the war that fitted within French Industrial methodology.  Of course, they adopted ideas learned from the German Panther and Tiger which were available for evaluation and they observed the trends in the armour of other nations.  It must be remembered that the French army had nearly 60 Panthers in service.  German components such as guns and motors were part of these experiments.
The light tank AMX13 used the slightly modified 7.5cm K.w.K 42 L/70.   This Panther gun was used successfully in combat up to the sixties especially with the IDF in the Middle East wars.


39.    Why was Dr Ferdinand Porsche so insistent on using the petro-electric drive system in both the Porsche tiger prototype (and subsequent Elefant tank destroyer) and the Maus tanks? did it have any advantages to justify its temperamental and maintenance heavy nature

Drive systems using electric traction motors have long be known to have some very good qualities especially when moving very heavy loads.  The Electric traction motor obviates the need for a clutch has the capability of delivering full torque at 0 RPM (revolutions per minute) giving the equivalent to an infinite and smooth gearing.  Railway locomotives, submarines and ships being good examples of the use of this system. The first Diesel electric ship was the 1903 Russian Tanker “Vandal”.   Dr Porsche was produced his first petrol electric transmission for road vehicles in 1901.  This was quite successful.
The Electric Traction motors, supplied by Siemens for the Ferdinand performed well and gave these very heavy vehicles an excellent performance. The difficulties encountered with the system were more to do with the cooling of the Maybach motors.  It must be remembered that these were embedded in the middle of the hull rather than the ideal location at the rear of the vehicle.
The electric drive of the Maus was also excellent as indicated by an incident during testing of the Maus chassis with a counterweight instead of the turret. 
 “The 1.Maus became stuck during a trip through a swampy area because the driver didn’t know the area. As determined later, this region was avoided by the lighter Schulfahrzeuge (training vehicles) from Pz.Ers.Abt.7.  By digging out the mass of mud churned up at the rear and laying timbers under the tracks, the Maus pulled free under its own power”
Photographs of this event show the Maus stuck in mud more than half way up the hull.  A tank with a normal gearbox could not have extricated itself.

40.    The common conception is that the engines of German tanks were underpowered compared to their allied counterparts. Was this a matter of German inability to build a suitable tank engine, political pressure resulting in an increase in armour an armament beyond engine capability (like in the case of the tiger and panther) or another factor?

This is a myth!  The German carefully match the power of their engines to the task required.  Obviously over time heavier vehicles demanded increases in power and that was provided.
Personally I have attended a private comparison driving demonstration of a Panther Ausf.A and a T34/85.  Obviously these precious artefacts were not being tested to destruction but they were driven on road and cross country and over obstacles.  The T34 appeared slightly more nimble on the roadway but defiantly was more stressed cross country and by the obstacles.  I have also seen a Tiger Ausf.B driven on a road.  The acceleration seemed slower but it appeared equally fast as a Panther when up to speed.  I have had the honour of standing in the commander’s cupola of the Tiger Ausf.E in a drive around the Bovington display track – the power of the motor was more than sufficient and impressive.

Friday, November 9, 2012

[WoT] More on the Upcoming 8.2

Below I have listed some of the minor features of 8.2 update for WoT. Some major ones are already known.

Tech tree (UI):
  • the space between tiers will be reduced. The whole tree will be displayed in FullHD mode.
  • hyperlink "back to tech tree" will be changed to a button with nation logo (flag)
  • hint on the remaining experience/credits will be added
  • experience and free experience counters will be added to tank screen (each tank in tech tree)
Optimization:
  • the performance of speedtree render will be improved which should decrease FPS drop in sniper mode, and improve overall performance for maps with lots of trees
  • the performance of South Coast and Highway maps will be improved due to reconfiguration of water. For other maps the improvement is going to be less noticeable.
Aiming:
  • fixed bug with reticle "shaking" aside while aiming. The issue was related to precision loss due to server load management, when one process "transfers" vehicle to another process
  • substantially decreased vehicle vibration on roughness of terrain - via software tuning and fixing hitboxes of the objects. Riding over railroad is more fun now.
Gameplay:
  • fallen trees will now impact visibility system. Hurray!
Penetration / Non-penetration:
  • fixed bug with shell disappearing after penetrating spaced armour and then ricocheting (eg sloped spaced side armour of IS-tanks)
  • fixed bug with shell shell disappearing after penetrating spaced armour, and gun making "saving throw" after being hit.
HUD:
  • module icons in left bottom corner will get repair speed indicator (same mechanics as reloading)
There going to be many more minor improvements, but that's it for now.

Apart from the whole bunch of new features and highly anticipated Chinese tree, 8.2 will bring new 5 US vehicles. See more info here.

Light Tanks
    T21
    T71
Medium Tanks
    T69
    T54
Heavy Tank
    T57


About T21


About T71


About T69


About T54E1


And finally new top autoloader - T57


Thursday, November 8, 2012

[WoT] Made in China

Newly-announced Chinese tech tree of 17 researchable vehicles will be available in WoT 8.2 update for EU and NA regions.


The new tech tree:


Video trailer:



More screenshots are available following the link.

Get prepared for the upcoming invasion!

Monday, November 5, 2012

[WoT] Doyle, Kubinka, and Much More. Part 6: Third Answer Bulletin

This post is the continuation of Q&A session with H. L. Doyle, well-known German WWII military exert. See previous post. Doyle's replies are bolded (just in case). 

21.    How credible is the design of Crocodile - Stuf E90 Crocodile:
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8436/heer4702n6my.jpg
http://www.nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/fotosammlung/displayimage.php?album=25&pos=3 ?
 

As I commented in my answer to Question 18 - Such vehicles are fictional creations for entertainment just like the Millennium Falcon and the Tie-fighters in the Star Wars films.   These always seem quite credible and exciting in a science fiction context.

Some of the drawings these vehicles are copied from my drawings of Paper Panzers. These did at least reach the drawing board before 1945.  With my colleague Tom Jentz I published so far two Panzer Tracts No.20-1 and No.20-2 on Paper Panzers (i.e. projects for which at least there original sketches or drawings were produced by German industry).  The first book covered Panzerkampfwagen, Sturmgeschuetz and Jagdpanzer while the second included the ideas for Aufklaerungs-, Beobachtungs- and Flak-panzer. We hope that additional Paper Panzer volumes will appear in the future as we still have many un-published drawings and documents.

22.    Why was the Panzer III so long produced? Wouldn’t it have been better to produce only Panthers after 1943?

Production of the Pz.Kpfw. III was suspended as soon as practical. It is never possible to stop major production lines without having the replacement ready.  Components are created, in some cases, up to a year before final assembly.  From the troops point of view even an outdated Pz.Kpfw.III was better that nothing. Most of the factories involved in Pz.Kpfw. III assembly were supposed to introduce improved versions of the Pz.Kpfw.III as can be seen from the various test programmes in place from as early as 1937.  The Z.W.40 had wider tracks and interleaved large diameter wheel suspension.  As well as a test vehicle a pre-production batch of 20 had been produced.  The VK.20.01 D had a diesel motor and improved transmission.  A new larger turret similar to that of a Pz.Kpfw.IV had been designed.  We covered these in several of our Panzer Tracts about the Pz.Kpfw.III and Pz.Bef.Wg. (Command vehicles). All of these developments were swept away in the accelerated response to the Russian Tanks encountered in 1941. Most of the Pz.Kpfw.III factories were to switch over to Panther as soon as possible.


During the 3-5th January conference Hitler was informed that Pz.Kpfw.III (5cm L/60) would be concluded and instead be completed as follows:

235 chassis diverted to Sturmgeschuetz production
100 converted to Flammpanzer
56 to be completed for Turkey
144 to be converted to Pz.Kpfw.III Ausf.N (7.5cm L/24)

To quickly look at what actually happened:
M.N.H finished their last Pz.Kpfw. III in January 43 when they started Panther assembly. M.N.H did however complete a small series of Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. N from April to August of 1943.
M.A.N commenced their Panther assembly in January 1943.
Daimler-Benz began Panther assembly in February 1943 having completed 50 Pz.Bef.Wg.Ausf.K, with the new large turret that I mentioned above, between December 1942 and February 1943.
Henschel started Panther assembly in March 1943.
M.I.A.G was the only other producer of Pz.Kpfw. III in 1943; they delivered the 100 to Wegmann for conversion to Flammpanzer and small series of Pz.Kpfw.III Ausf.N. but they converted to large scale Sturmgeschuetz assembly from February 1943.
Other secondary companies overhauled and converted a small number of Pz.Kpfw.III to Ausf.N. in 1943 and 1944.


23.    How developed German steel and welding quality over the years in war? Did it get better or worse?

German welding quality remained the same until 1945.  It must be remembered that before the war the Germans were ahead of all the allies in terms of welding technology. Production of steel during the war changed somewhat due to the reduced availability of certain raw materials but the Germans compensated for this by modifying their formulae and by increasing the thickness of armour in some cases. High-quality German armour was reserved for panzers.
To increase production of self-propelled guns at the same time as Panzers the lower quality armour available from foreign steelworks was used. For example the Jagdpanzer 38(t) (often incorrectly called the Hetzer) was designed to replace earlier open topped self-propelled antitank guns. So the Jagdpanzer 38 had the cheaper armour - 20 mm on the side (roughly equivalent to 10 mm German armour) and a front plate of 60 mm (equivalent to approximately 30 mm German armour) but this allowed a big production of these vehicles and afforded somewhat better protection to gun crews than a open topped self-propelled antitank gun.


24.    Could you please explain in detail the test methods and results of gun & armour penetration for the Germans?

WaA Pruef 1 was responsible for weapons tests.  I have seen many documents showing their test results during my research in the Bundesarchiv, Freiburg, Germany.  Since my main emphasis is on development history and accurately drawing Panzers I have not spent time collecting copies of these test results other than the following:

Calibre
7.5cm
7.5cm
7.5cm
7.5cm
Type
Pak 40
Pak 39
Pak 40
Pak 40
Ammunition
Pz.Gr.39
Pz.Gr.39
Pz.Gr.40
Pz.Gr.40
Round
6.8Kg
6.8Kg
4.1Kg
4.1Kg
Muzzle velocity
750 m/s
740 m/s
930 m/s
920 m/s
Range meters
mm
mm
mm
mm
100
98.5
98.5
128.0
125.0
500
90.7
90.7
110.5
107.5
1000
81.5
81.5
89.6
86.6
1500
72.4
72.4
-
-
2000
63.2
63.2
-
-





All tests were against German armour plate set a 60 degrees from Horizontal









25.    Do other tank nations follow the Germans methodology? Why or why not?

Most countries have their own industrial and production methods so it is very rare that designs are taken from one country and introduced into another account country without adapting them to their own methodologies. When a country saw a good idea introduced by the other side they tried to improve on that when they incorporated it into their own plans.

26.    It's been discussed that the Germans had a higher standard regarding shell quality (tank/artillery/etc), while some other nations rather than test simply used a mathematical formula. Is it correct?

I have not researched this area so cannot comment.


27.    T-34 in its early versions is generally considered (outside of propaganda sources) to be a coffin on tracks (no or poor radio communication, dreadful transmission, woeful quality of armour, none or close to none targeting equipment). Yet first encounters with this tank reportedly caused panic and envy among German commanders. And captured tanks themselves were used by Wehrmacht. Where is the catch?

When the T 34 was encountered the German troops saw only the best features and did not understand the difficulties of operating this tank.  They saw sloped armour, big gun and wide tracks and they recognised that the bulk of their Panzers (at that time Pz.Kpfw. II, Pz.Kpfw. 35(t), Pz.Kpfw. 38(t) and even Pz.Kpfw.III) did not have these features.  However, very quickly German Panzer troops developed tactics to deal with T 34 and for the following two years had no particular problems in fighting T 34.

Use of captured vehicles captured tanks is a separate in issue.  Generally speaking captured vehicles are used in secondary areas against infantry that have little or no defence against such vehicles and where any short comings are unimportant. The arrival of any tank in an infantry sector causes anxiety.  Captured vehicles were also widely used for training.  Even where the captured vehicles were of good combat quality the maintenance was a problem due to lack of spare parts. When the Germans captured T 34 they tried to improve them by adding their own commander’s cupola and radio equipment.


28.    A commonly known weak spot shared by most of the German tanks is their frontal transmission. Are there any reliable sources confirming that penetrating hits received in the transmission, caused ignition of gear oil and internal fire?

I think this is a popular myth.  German reports frequently discuss the side armour as the weak point of their Panzers.   There is no mention of the front transmission.  Front armour was seen as adequate to defend against the treats of the period.  The Sturmgeschuetz troops considered that Panzer tactics were the main problem highlighting weak side armour.
 All tanks are full of flammable material and but there is no indication that penetrations of the transmission caused any special problem.   An ammunition fire causes much more problems.


29.    Something about Sturmtiger:
A) It performance (effectiveness) in combat?
B) What ammunition it use in combat?
C) I heard that Sturmtiger use HE and HEAT, and this ultimate can penetrate 2.5 meters of reinforced concrete. What is the penetration of this ammunition over steel?

The Sturmmoerser Tiger was designed to deliver to a very large high explosive charge against fortified positions while having heavy armour so they could withstand attacks. The first action was with Stu.Mrs.KP 1000 which was sent to Warsaw with two Sturmmoerser Tiger. Starting on 19 August 1944 these Sturmmoerser Tiger were successfully employed to destroy buildings and blow up concrete barriers. However, the unit commander sent in an experience report stating that the task could have been successfully carried out by a less expensive and less heavily armoured vehicle as in order to avoid blast damage from their own high explosive the Sturmmoerser Tiger had to stand-off at a distance where heavy armour was of little benefit.

The high explosive round was the 38cm R.Spr.Gr.4851. There also was a 38cm R.HL. 4592 designed to destroy armoured bunkers.

30.    E series
A) Something about utility of E-5? Can you give us some picture about any project of E-5 tank?
B) E-10 was planned to have the same armour as Hetzer or better? What about its suspension system? Some picture please
C) E-25 was planned to charge 7,5cm L/70 or 8,8cm L/56? Some picture please

The E series was envisaged by Kniepkamp (Civilian Head of Automotive design) to explore future possible components especially engines, transmissions and suspensions.  Production contracts were not yet envisaged.

It was hoped that parts could be shared between the E 10 and the E 25. Companies not normally involved in Panzer design were engaged so as not to compromise normal Panzer design and development.  Magirus was tasked with designing the E 10 and completed drawings in 1944. Three hulls were ordered and were being assembled at a steel works when the Russians arrived. The motor was to be Maybach HL 100 rated at 400 HP, the transmission was to be at the rear and a unique feature was that the suspension was coupled to the drive train to allow the vehicle to be raised and lowered.  Argus got the contract to design the E 25.  A semi-automatic transmission was proposed by ZF and an even more powerful Maybach HL 101 with fuel injection.  3 experimental hulls had been ordered.

A Bellville washer suspension was proposed as it was thought that this would be easy to produce, could be configured to suit the size of Panzer and could be mounted in external pods on the hull to facilitate easy replacement (which had been the idea behind the Porsche horizontal torsion bar suspension of the Tiger P).
 

The E 10 and E25 suspension units

The E 50 and E 75 were supposed to carry forward the features of the Panther and tiger with new suspension and later a rear drive.


Common suspension unit for the E 50 and E75.  The Belleville washers were laid out horizontally.


The E 100 was only added to the experimental series because it incorporated a new type of spring suspension for heavy tanks.

I have no information on an E 5.